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I wish I had advice for you. But I’m going to be keeping an eye on this thread. My bull staff mix, Butch, is almost a year old and has just started doing this. It isn’t aggressive either, just a pain in the tush. He’s been leash trained for quite sometime, and he’s been in training since he was about 6 months old. We’re very active and take long walks everyday, play fetch, find it games, etc. So I don’t think I have a bored pitty baby on my hands, but one who cannot stand his leash as of late. I do know I’m aching to resolve the problem though. Good luck to both of us. =]
You and I both. I’ll share an experience that happened today, and I may ramble slightly. For that I do apologize.
Today, my son, a friend of mine, myself, and our dog Butch, were at the pet store. He’s only 7 and half months, and the pet store is one of his favorite places to visit. Not only that, but it’s a wonderful oppurtunity for socialization, he is introduced to different dogs, people, surroundings, distractions etc. He always does wonderful. He’s also in puppy training classes, along with our frequent outtings. Well, today our pet store visit was a little different, we had a run in with a rather large, aggressive dog. The dog’s owner, did not seem concerned with their animals behaviors; raised fur, pinned back ears, growling, dominant tail, stiff body, and exposed teeth. All of which he was doing towards my dog, Butch; who did not react, even when the dog lunged at him. Nonetheless, I had a tight grip on Butch’s collar, he was sitting and staying at my side. Still, I didn’t want my dog to reach to this other dog’s obvious challenge, as I went to remove my dog and myself away from this situation a sales woman and a trainer approached the other dog owner. They did their best to explain that the dog was exhibiting aggressive behaviors, and that these behaviors should be addressed, and not taken lightly; explaining that many dogs will react when challenged, and a dog fight could occur. The other dog owner of course brushed it off, but still replied that her dog is ‘unconrollable.’ I’m sorry, but if an owner feels their dog is uncontrollable and they cannot control their dog, the dog should not be in the pet store, and I would assume a responsible pet owner would take their dog to a trainer that specializes in such behaviors. If that was my dog, I would want to correct the behaviors, I’d want to understand what is triggering this behavior, fear, dominance, etc.This owner didn’t seem to care, and that alone was frustrating. I’m sure I was not the only one frustrated. This dog was also reacting in similar ways to a few other animals.
After the first occurance, we stayed clear of that other dog. Butch and I practiced heeling, sit, down, stay, etc. I thought it was a perfect oppurtunity with all of the distractions around him. He was doing great, and as we went to pay for a few things and we made our way to the check out line, that aggressive dog was again directly next to us, in the aisle on the opposite side. I again had Butch sit at my side, while gripping his collar, staying calm, while we waited for the other dog to pass. I was amazed that the dog’s owner still did not react. Again, the other dog was displaying the same body language, along with the exposed teeth and growling, the dog was also barking. This behavior was not only aimed towards other dogs, but I also made note that the dog was doing this to smaller children in the pet store. That was even more alarming to me, not only did I have my son with me, but there were more than a handful of kids in the store. It was scary to think that this owner had no desire to correct the behavior, or better yet, remove themselves from the pet store.Still, Butch, did not react to the other dog.
In the process of this situation there were two women, they couldn’t have been any older than what I am, had passed by us. Each woman felt the need to point at my dog. My dog was obviously well behaved and obedient, they expressed their feelings on how vicious my dog is, that he was ‘scary’ and had no buisness being in the pet store. They could not believe that I had enough guts, balls, and courage to bring my Pit Bull around other dogs and children. Urgh. My dog has the same right to be there, as any other dog does. I wonder what they would have thought if they knew that my SBT is a 5 year old’s best friend, and even minds him to a T? Needless to say, they rambled off a bunch of uneducated ‘so called Pit Bull information.’ They heard it from the media, so it must be fact, right? At least that’s what i was able to gather before they trailed off. Whatever.
Ultimately, they choose not to pay any attention to the other dog that was misbehaving and showing aggressive signs, along with ignoring the irresponsible pet owner that was allowing their dogs behavior to continue. To them, my dog is a Pit Bull breed dog and he must have somehow instigated the other dog. He must have created some sort of problem. Yet, he didn’t. He continued to be on his best behavor the entire time. His crime in the eyes of these women was false. My dog wagged his tail at the people that passed by & the ones that stopped to pet him, he sniffed and kissed their hands, he didn’t jump, he didn’t growl, he didn’t bite, he didn’t react negatively to any of the other dogs in the pet store, instead when I asked another owner if they would mind a dog introduction, (and explained I was working on socialization with my puppy) the dogs meeted and greeted; their owners were happy to take part in it.
I’m always careful with introductions with other dogs and I pay close attention to Butch’s body language. I do know that any dog can display aggression towards other animals, and that isn’t uncommon in Pits. My dog is also a male, which again, isn’t an uncommon behavior. Socialization is important for many reasons, I know I cannot stop animal aggression if it EVER occurs, but I can appropriately take the correct steps to understand what to look for and what situations to avoid with my dog. All of this is done by watching his body language, that’s the way our animals communicate with us. It’s our job as owners to be responsible for our animals, to keep them safe, and avoid situations that they are not comfortable with. Butch has not shown any aggressive signs, he does not try to dominate, I won’t say he never has, because I’d be lying. He’s a male dog, although he’s still a puppy. That behavior had occured in his own home when I first got him. My female German corrected the behavior, and began teaching him appropriate behavior. At the time he was only about 4 months old. They are always surpervised, and I do not believe dogs should ‘hash’ it out. I do step in, so to speak, and I use dog language that Butch understands. If one or the other is irritated, they are both returned to their crates to relax. But more so, I do believe that Butch didn’t know how to correctly interact with other dogs before I got him. This was something he had to learn. Butch was taken from his litter much earlier than what he should have been, at the time, he didn’t possess the same mannerisms as other puppies. The dominance issue has since been corrected, and I know that is something I need to watch out for, and I do. But that isn’t any different than any other breed of dog.
I had taken Butch into our home, and recieved him from an older man whose apartment complex would not allow him to keep Butch. I was unaware of his history until a bit later. Thus, our loving family pet. =] Anyway, the whole occurance got underneath of my skin. I wanted to approach the two women, I wanted to educate them on their false view point of these wonderful dogs; instead of approaching them, I went on my marry way, with my son, my dog, and my friend. I felt that an example would be much more appropriate than listening to these people bash my dog, simply because of his breed. So, Butch heeled and sat politely when we got to the counter to pay for our items. When we then headed out of the pet store, I couldn’t help but wonder why some people prefer to stay so ignorant. But, I was hopeful that they saw how pleasant my dog was, and just maybe, they would feel like idiots.
I really hope that you, your wife, and your new found lovin companion find and recieve the help the that baby of yours deserves. I think it’s wonderful what you have done. =] Although this post breaks my heart, because I wish I were able to help. It makes me smile to see such kind hearted people. This is one of the many reasons why I love this site. Also, if you would like I could look up some information on rescues that may help. Good luck!
I was simply curious about the DNA testing, whereas I already feel I have recieved some very helpful advice. I adore Butch, and he’s a very loved and enjoyed member of my family. As for needing a DNA test for training methods, I do not need a DNA for such reasons. I am placing my dog in training classes because that is important for ANY dog. That has nothing to do with his breed. I have been raised around the ‘dog world.’ IE, I am by no means an inexperienced dog owner. My family and I have owned, raised, and breed German Shepherds my entire life. This happens to be another breed of dog that people also tend to commonly fear.
Also, I am not inexperienced when it comes to the proper training of animals. My grandmother taught obedience classes my entire life, which I was able to participate in. I’ve also trained all of my dogs, many of which were Therapy dogs.Thus me stressing that training classes are good for any breed of dog. It’s important to remember that mannerisms are imperative for any breed, as well as the proper socialization. However, as a responsible Pit Bull owner, I prefer to represent the breed in a positive way. I understand the responsiblity in representing the breed properly. Pit Bulls have a nasty reputation, and it isn’t fair. It isn’t the dog’s fault, it’s the irresponsible owners who either mistreat and abuse their animals or are unaware of the specifics of the breed. It is up to us, the responsible owners to show the beauty and love in the breed.
Yes, any ‘Pit Bull type’ dog has a much higher prey drive. However, there are also a number of other breeds that do as well. This is not just limited to Pit Bulls. So that is silly to only point out certain breeds, any dog reguardless of its breed has the possiblity to become dog aggressive, and on sad occasions present people aggression. As you stated each breed has specific bred in traits. Any responsible owner is well aware of the negative and positive traits that their animals possess.
You could also try contacting local pit rescues, they may be able to help with vet costs.
I have a 7 month old mixed Bull Staffie, who also has dry skin. We’ve switched to feeding him Natures Choice puppy formula, it’s all natural and has oatmeal in it. It really has helped with his dry skin. =]
Thank you for all the useful information Kaylasmom! =] According to the man we recieved him from, he swears he is Pit, and the mother was a lab. The man we recieved him from got him from an accidental breeding. So, I’m not convinced entirely that the male dog was lab, considering it was an accidently breeding. Which that alone makes me sad, and my family and I were glad to take Butch in and give him a very happy home. But the woman had said that she seen the male, and it was blackish/brown in color. But to me, you cannot tell the male breed from color alone. That’s silly. From what I am aware, (there isn’t much background on my baby) the woman said her female was pit. However, again I’m still not convinced, his legs are very short, and straight. He’s not a very big guy in the slightest. He’s just now starting to reach 35 lbs. He is built more like a Staffie Bull Terrier, although his body is slightly longer. But again, he’s a mixed pup. Which could very be were the square like head shape is coming from. I’ve read that is a common characteristic in Staffie Bull Terriers, and his head is rather wrinkly too. =] I know that is still part of the ‘pit’ classification and the two are a commonly confused breed. So it is very possible that the woman was misqued. If I had to make a guess, my money would be on the Staffie Bull Terrier side. That shot would be from all of the reading I’ve done.
I don’t have to know, but like I said I’m just rather curious. But if it’s a waste of money, that’d be something I’d gladly pass up. =] He’s my baby reguardless, and I still couldn’t be happier. He’s an amazing dog, and out of all of the dogs I’ve had, I’ve never had one even close to him. I wouldn’t trade him for the world. Thank you so much again hun!
Thank you, and congrats on yours as well. =] Butch, really is a wonderful family addition, and I couldn’t be more pleased. He’s the best companion and my son’s best friend. I doubt I will ever own any other breed. I’m absolutely smitten with him. As for his temperment test, the vet had brought it to my attention. I felt it was a good idea, because I too also wanted to know the areas we needed to work on. I’m also in a smaller town in Michigan. =] Do you mind me asking where abouts your located? I’m located in Oakland County. I haven’t had him out for walks yet, but that’s because we’re just about to finish up his shots, and I don’t want him to get sick. But he does go for car rides, I introduce him to new people in the home, and he’s been getting socialization with our other family pets, as well as a friend of mines Pit Bull puppy. He’s done great. =] He really is a special boy.
I still would love to know what Butch is mixed with, and lately I have been leaning towards a Stafford Bull Terrier. I do plan on getting the genetic testing done on him, and for no other reason than my own curiousity. =]
Thank you very much for the reply. =] I do plan on getting him in puppy classes after his shots are completed, he’s also getting nutured on Feb. 11. I know how important proper socialization is in any dog. =] I’ll continue to watch them when they play, and I do give them breaks when my German has had enough. I’ve been able to read both their body languages rather well, but I was concerned about this. My grandmother was a dog trainer, so I’m not a novice in that area, and understand all of the importance. =] Once again thank you so much for your reply. It was very helpful.
Welcome to the site Christina! I’m fairly new here myself. =]
Butch is home with me all day long, I’m a full time student and a stay at home mother. My son and I live with my parents also.
So our routine goes something like this, we wake up around 6 am every morning, (unless it’s the weekend) first things first, I take him out potty. Then we head up to my son Caden’s room and wake him for school. Butch always covers my kiddo with kisses, and Cade always says it’s his favorite way to wake up. Then Butch watches cartoons with him in the living room while I make breakfast. It’s absolutely adorable watching the two of them. Cade calls him his best buddy, and he definitely is. After breakfast is made and devoured, and cartoons are watched, we all get ready to head out to take my son to school. All of us put on our coats, Butch included. He doesn’t like the cold weather much, and shivers when he’s outside without his jacket. Butch also comes along for the car ride to school. =]
For the time being we are getting in as much playtime as possible, we just started his puppy shots today, and I don’t want Butch to get sick. So until I can start walking him we have lots of indoor and outdoor play. After my son is dropped off, we head home and play with his rope (tug-a-war), and then head outside to play ball. After our morning play time is done, we head inside, he eats his breakfast, and I start working on my homework for school. After he’s ate, generally he naps and snores up a storm. lol. By then my homework is complete, and we have a few hours, before we head off to the school to pick Cade up. So after all is said and done, he plays with our German Shepherd, Lacey, indoors and then we all venture outdoors. After the two of them are finished playing, he’s generally pretty pooped and we cuddle up on the couch for an hour or so before we pick up Cade. Then it’s off to pick him up from school, and another car ride for Butchie.
When we return home, all of us are outside playing ball. Butch and Cade do virtually everything together when he’s home from school. =] My parents also return home shortly after, he spends time cuddling with my Dad, and my mom. When they are ready for bed, he’s always back by my side. He eats his dinner, and is ready for bed. He snuggles on the couch with me, and falls fast asleep in my arms. And we do it all over again the next day.
Ahh, I forgot to mention we do obedience training through out the day in sessions generally lasting from 15-30 minutes at a time.
We have actually just returned from the vet. We started his puppy shots today. As it turns out Butch is actually 5 1/2 months, instead of 4 months. Our vet believes he is definitely pit, he thinks at least 90%, and he doesn’t believe he has any boxer in him. However, the vet my mother works for thought he had boxer in him because of his snout.I know his mother was a pit, it was an accidental breeding, they were unsure of the breed of the other dog. Butch’s, vet did tell me about genetic testing, and said if I wanted to know for sure we could always do that. But we love Butch just the same, and to be honest it doesn’t matter much to me. He’s my baby, and he’s a wonderful dog either way. Butch, also passed his temperament test with flying colors. =] (Just as I knew he would.)
I am new to pit ownership, however, I do adore him, and I wouldn’t trade him for the world. The bond I share with him is absolutely beautiful, and he’s the best dog we’ve ever had. As a family, we have always owned Shepherds.
I want to do right by him, and show others that the Pit Bull stigma, is just that a stigma. It’s the irresponsible owners that give this wonderful dogs a bad name. I am enrolling him in puppy classes within the months time, and I’m currently looking at agility. Until then I am going to continue to socialize him at home, with people and our other family pets. I’ll continue to take him on car rides, and work on his obedience. He’s already learned the basics.
Now that I’ve rambled, lol thank you very much!