I’m looking for someone with professional, expert references and credentials

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    dragonsi
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    I would like to know if someone can refer me to anyone in the goverment agencies, that have professional credentials and have studied Pit Bulls professionally.

    No offense to anyone here, as in private owners, but I need a professional to quote and give references to, someone who studies dogs, pit bulls specifically or animals in general. I’m currently researching 4 different pit bull attacks in the past 3-4 weeks all within our town and a mile or so of each other.  And I’m sooo sick of people accusing owners of training them to be vicious, or neglected or anything else, including saying the victims teased the dog and had it coming. One dog snuck out the front door and randomly bit an eldery man who lived down the block, standing on the corner for no reason.

    So yes, again, please don’t be offended, I know many people here may say: “Go ahead, ask a question, I can answer it”, but I need to keep it official and have official experts I can quote and post as referrals to whatever I find, so I was hoping someone here can refer me to goverment agencies that might have done clinical studies with dogs or this breed specifically, thanks!

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    GilmoresGirl
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    Hello there. I am so happy to hear that you would you like to keep your research “official”, but I am left wondering what your ultimate goal is. If you would like your study to be unbiased, then I assume you may also want to find out about all other incidence of dog bites in your neighborhood and how many of those came from other breeds.

    #17396
    dragonsi
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    GilmoresGirl: Thank you for responding so quickly to my post.

    My ultimate goal is to play Devil’s Advocate, and to disprove the theory that either the owner, or the victim definately had to have been at fault, and perhaps, neither at all were to blame at all (not counting owners that purposefully raise vicious dogs, and an innocent person got in the way) and perhaps something else randomly might have caused this instead.

    The first incident only three weeks ago, happened when the parents were out together and their 3 children, age 13 female, 10 and 7, were outside with the dog, and it just randomly snapped and started to attack the youngest one, and the oldest girl put herself in the way and protected her 2 siblings and told the others to get inside. The dog walked down the block, a neighbor either saw what happened or her laying on the ground and called the cops.

    When the cops came, they called an ambulance and the dog came trotting back growling at the cops, and they tasered him, and he didn’t stop and they eventually shot and killed him to protect the girl on the ground, or something like that.

    Then comes the ensuing comments from both sides, “The kids must have been tormenting the dog badly for it to snap, when the parents were gone.”

    “Why were they outside with the dog anyhow?”

    “The parents probably raised the dog to be vicious and the kids got in the way or teased it”.

    I think there’s a third side to this, and perhaps NEITHER owners or victims did anything wrong at all, and it occured for a different reason yet unknown.

    There were no other attacks by dogs in our county, at least none that made the paper, in a very long time. I do remember 3 to 4 years ago, either ’08 or ’09, my roommate who lived with me for 2 years moved in with his brand new girlfriend and moved out of my place. He was 27, she was 30-32ish and 2 kids.  One day when he was at work, the dog snapped and started mauling her legs very badly, and the dog was euthanized a few days later. Then another attack occured a week or two after that.

    A new attack just occured yesterday, July 4th, about 4 blocks from my home. Someone opened the screen door to a home and the dog snuck by quickly and ran down the street. An eldery 80 year old man was just standing on the corner, waiting to go to church and the dog ran up and bit into his leg.  I certainly believe someone of that age would never tease or try to pet a pit bull, and I don’t think the owners raised it to be vicious either.

    I’m taking a 3rd stand altogether, and I’m IN FAVOR of the dogs and defending them, and I DON’T think it was the dogs’ fault at all, is what I’m saying and would like a few professional contact information number or email addresses to ask a few questions to.

    Believe me, I’m on all dogs’ side, no matter what breed, something just doesn’t seem right to me with these incidences, so close in a 3 week period and I want to bounce ideas off of a professional is my goal with this post.

    #17397
    kendseycollins
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    I am glad to see somebody taking an unbias stance in this debate.  I agree with you on the naughty owner/naughty, provoking jogger theory.  It is true that sometimes dogs just bite, for whatever reason seemed good to them at the time, and it’s not a breed specific thing.  However, I would caution you to do your research well, as it seems you are.  Lack if evidence is not proof of anything.  Not all dog bites/attacks are reported in the news.  Reporters are after sensationalized, reader-grabbing, paper-selling stories.  Not one about a poodle that bit a child.  Unfortunatelly, as far as your query, I am but a lowly expert on my dogs alone.  I am afraid that your quest for unslanted view points may not be best met on this web site.  We are here because we love our pits, not to be unbiased and objective. If I were you, I would do a web search for experts on animal, specifically canine, behavior and see if anybody is available for a chat.  Universities provide a wealth of information, and if you can get ahold of somebody who specializes in the animal behavior field it would look very nice in an article.  If you have a facebook page you could also look up the site, Bless the Bullys.  They have published a couple articles lately that you may find interesting, including one about dog bite statistics in areas that support BSL. However, I would stay away from government agencies for anything other than area-specific stats.  Unfortunatelly, government agencies can be the worst for taking sides in politically charged debates.  In fact, in one county, I won’t mention specific names, the gentleman in charge of the animal shelter was fired for failure to comply with training requirements.  This particular gentleman had enacted a policy that barred the shelter from accepting or adopting out any dog with “pit bull” like features (another article published on Bless the Bullys.)  At any rate, I wish you luck and I’m sorry I couldn’t be of more help.  Just out of curiosity, since all these attacks were in the same area, within a short amount of time, have you looked into the possibility of these dogs being from the same blood lines?

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